Talk:Battle Arena/@comment-26243899-20180311155856/@comment-27957947-20180316060820

DragonOasis, Bad news, but almost all Champs level 16+ have the exact same odds of being beaten as Congo: either 10% or 25%. Enter any pure Champ (and most of the Champ hybrids) in the calculator and you'll see the exact same results as what Congo gave you.

There are a few exceptions- some of the hybrid Champs are easier to beat. Off the top of my head: Light Mother, Moonrise, and Cleric are examples. S8 has been using these newer hybrid Champs in the tourneys a lot lately, so that is good news. But, like Congo, some of the new hybrid Champs are still "10%ers." Enter Congo or Prizefighter or Battlesteed in the calc and scroll down, you'll see why high level Champs are called 10%ers.

The ADIPS (Achilles, Diamond, Infinty, Passion, Soccer), and the bomb, map, and food producers, when fed up to level 13 or higher, have slightly increased odds against the 10%ers (15% or 25%, depending on level). The level 13+ Metal Dragon also has a slightly higher chance (15%). So, players are still at a huge disadvantage, even if they have all the ADIPS fed up to level 15.

Really, the only thing you can do against 10%ers is wear down the odds algorithm. Expect many losses, set hourly alarms, and keep plugging away. Your opponent will eventually go down. Persistence is the only thing that can beat them. I've had to fight some Champs more than 20 times. Woohoo.😑 Sometimes, they go down quickly. Sometimes they don't. It's all about the odds algorithm, which is NOT in our favor.

Using The Baby Fire Strategy is another option. A level 1 Fire Dragon has the same 10% odds of beating a high level Champ as every other dragon in the game (besides the ADIPS/other 25%ers/Metal Dragon). So, hatch a bunch of Fire Dragons and, when they lose, just sell them off. That way your good battlers won't get stuck in a long spa line.

Don't forget: S8's goal is to get you to pay for an Ultimate Attack, so they have purposely made the odds of beating high level Champs very small.

I think they do additional mucking around with the odds, too. It seems that in every tourney everyone gets stuck on the *same* Champ, despite there being a few 16+ Champ opponents. That seems fishy. I don't have proof except my observations over the years, but I think one Champ in each tourney has less than a 10% chance of being beaten.